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Hi All.

Well another unclear rule or should we just use plain common sense.

I totally agree with Dave on this one, if you do as the rules say you have to bring your boat in on the lap you were given the stop and go, if you are on bottom left with 3 or 4 boats then you have not finished the lap but you would have to bring your boat in? Could be a nightmare if you are on the inside, do you cut over and risk a crash or slow down and risk a rear shunt, total confusion with no thought on implementing.

The rule was a rush to solve a problem of drivers not slowing down for the rescue; if you wanted to stop this you could have just made the existing rule more severe i.e. do it once and your out.

I think the debate of weather you engine is running or stopped is a bit OTT, most will kill the engine before lifting out of the water, I think lifting running boats out of the water is a accident waiting to happen, we all know the rush when we are racing you don't have time to look where the person next to you is and props are good at removing fingers and skin.

One thing as Dave said you can be given a stop and go by mistake; the only way to make this fairer to the competitor is to have a team leader at every race to discuss with the officials the reason for and weather it is in fact a justified penalty, the way it is now will lead to arguments between competitors and judges / officials, if you have a stop and go it is the same weather you do it instantly or within 3 or 4 laps, I can see if you get one in the last few minutes it could create a bit of a problem.

One thing if you are still giving out stop and goes, you still have the same problem of racers not slowing down for the rescue? Back to square one.

I have seen drivers come in for a splash and dash and they are in and out in less than half a lap, so with practice you could only loose half a lap or less against the old 1 lap deduction.

I think this rule need to be re- thought out, thank god we do not have to use this stupid rule in the UK, do clubs in Europe have to or are Naviga rules only a guidelines for non world championship events.

Alan

Hi Ian.

In the past we had situations where at most races people would not slow down, one thing that we all saw was the number of times the P A person (man with microphone) would keep saying to slow down, there was times when they should have given a yellow card but did not just shouted slow down again and again, perhaps we should have enforced the existing rule we had, then we would not have a system that is going to cause all sorts of problems.

I can see after race confrontations if someone is just out of the final, we all know when we are going to fast past the rescue and if you are not the person it is just bad luck when you have had a stop and go or even a DQ if you did not stop.

Like all rules they are there to be changed to make it safe for the rescue and competitor alike, so how to make this better, we could vote to go back the old way and enforce it at least you can get the lap back if you make a protest, even have a video of the rescue when it leaves and comes back, I don't think the new system was thought out but rushed through.

I did here that this rule was going to come weather we liked it or not, maybe there is someone who can shed some light on the thinking about this.

Another point from Bart's post.

France confirms it is a good system. It gives you an opportunity to calm down, discuss with judge etc.

France there should be a time on stop go penalty. Competitor should be given time to think because you need to calm down before they are re-launching the boat.

Time to calm down and do what discuss this with a judge; come on think about this? You put your boat on the stand and then go to discuss it with the judge, I don't think so, maybe tell him where to go ??.

Alan